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Lori Burkhart's avatar

I’m in shock that these surgeries to mutilate children are being done. I’m also shocked that this is being taught in school. Shame on those doctors, parents, and government.

At least it is being revealed as a blog like this shows. Also, there is a backlash when the real stories are told. I hold out hope that no children ever will be mutilated again. I’ve read articles about children for whom it is too late and they have long lives filled with regret and anger.

Adults should know better. What happened to common sense? What happened to basic science of X and Y chromosomes? How can mutilating children be justified?

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Yes adults should know better. Think of all the horrible things humans once thought were a good idea - eugenics, lobotomies, burning witches at the stake, etc., etc. Those who can see through this particular insanity have to push the message to wake people up and stop it. There is a purposeful effort behind this however and it will take a lot of us to overcome. Lawsuits won't hurt either.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

It can’t be justified because it’s indefensible, cruel, immoral, and an egregiously erroneous medical “treatment” with zero scientific basis that runs counter to everything known about protecting minors. It’s predatory and EVIL. It’s been all rolled up into the LGB community even though many gay ppl do not support this and resent the connection.

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Terry Greathead's avatar

I agree it is time to act. But I can’t help thinking something more sinister is going on. Media, governments and corporations have all been co opted into this belief system against their better judgement, they all know that biological sex is real yet they continue to shamelessly and relentlessly push the ideology. Why is that? I think money is definitely a big part of it as many see the short term gains especially in big pharma and cosmetic surgery industries, but why are so many academics pushing it and also governments?

My feeling is it is all about control, a confused population that is busy squabbling amongst themselves is easy to manipulate and push to a more dystopian future of global rule rule by unelected bodies like the UN and WEF creating a world of economic slavery where everything you do will be monitored and policed. They are using climate change in the same way.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

It is difficult to tease out how we arrived at a point. Jennifer Bilek has done great research on the money that helped launch this ideology. One thing seems clear, it is a top down movement not a grassroots one. The marketing of gender ideology has been coordinated, intense and comprehensive. There must be a reason they plucked it out of academia and thrust it on society at such enormous cost. Making money is surely a bit part of it, but I do not believe that is all of it.

Once things got rolling a cohort of true believers developed. If you read the WPATH files you can see it. They really believe their own BS. Then the kids start showing up at gender clinics. They are the market. Big Pharma, surgeons and drug pushers jump on board, the social media influencers etc. More marketing. More kids show up at gender clinics.

It looks like a confusing mess now but if we go back to the early money behind this thing and the early politicians like Obama who helped push it mainstream, there must be a reason they did it. That is what we all must figure out. In one of my earlier blogs, I attempt to answer the question by looking at the consequences. It sure looks like another head on the hydra of victim oppressor ideology.

But after seeing what is going on in Scotland, the trans campaign is being used as a cudgel of control and free speech as well. I hope we can stop it before their end game is achieved.

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Claire Rae Randall's avatar

Top down ~ I absolutely agree. When I encountered Gender Studies about 20 years ago I discovered that they thought they apparently knew all about the reasons for my own case of transsexualism and rejected my own experience and extensive medical research.

In fact the entire medical model of transsexualism which had been developed over the course of the twentieth century was rejected in favour of the 'Social Construct' model.

I resolved my own issues nearly forty years ago but now a new generation of ideologues are telling the world what this is all about but I reject their model since it fails to account for those of us who went through this process before they appropriated our identities.

I regret that Stephen Whittle, whom I knew as far back as 1974 seems to be the prime promoter of this ideology from a legal standpoint.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

There IS something far more sinister going on. It’s a battle royale for souls, the end game is decimation of western society. I know that makes me sound like a zealot but c’mon, haven’t we heard of this coming, the signs have been there for decades. It started with demands for tolerance of atypical sexuality. Then pushed for sexual liberation and demands for acceptance. Now it’s actually considered a norm for youth to experiment with sexual relationships to include same sex, group sex, everything and anything and demands for endorsement. I heard rumblings a number of years back at how eventually pedophilia would be covered under the expanding tent and there was scoffing and denial yet last year the term minor attracted person is a label that must be used or else in the UK. And I thought America was bad. Don’t want to offend child molesters? Really? I think they should be offended with, say, blunt objects. Western Society had lost its collective mind and has sold its soul for “progress” that seems more regressive and not conducive to maintaining a healthy, functioning world.

Notice how the same ppl beating drums in the name of all this “progress” also are pushing socialism, communism and selling youth via social media that capitalism is bad, white ppl of Eurocentric descent are bad and western civilization is SUPER BAD.

Add all that to the FACT that communist regimes do not allow for the practice of any faith as nothing can be above the “state” lest the natives choose to disregard state issued edicts.

Too many interwoven aspects. It’s really simple math here. 1 + 1 = 2 but then they’ve made the absurd proposition that math is another form of white supremacy. I challenge every idiot who thinks that to see the movie “Hidden Figures”. Math provides all this cool tech, EV’s, any and all machinery, so..

We can keep handwringing and try to pretend the elephant in the room isn’t simply pure evil or we can GET REAL. After the free love 60’s & 70’s there was a shift back to more traditional monogamy. I thought we learned something. Ppl that do bad things are bad ppl. We must stop excusing poor behavior and choices, go back to heavy, scary and graphic lessons to kids about the dead end to drug abuse, pull the plug on DEI, CRT and all malignant ideology being force fed to now preschool kids. There is a closing window on correcting course. Capitalism unchecked is just as evil in its greediness, covert illicit operations by our intelligence agencies needs better oversight and if we want to have young ppl believe in our goodness we need to be good, do good and STOP lying.

Love what you are doing Ms Seboda! Thank you.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Well said! I started researching the transing of America when doing a series called "America on Shaky Ground". When you examine all of the strategies that have been deployed to destabilize America and western society in general, it is clear they share similar goals. Destabilization, chaos, divide and conquer. What is more disturbing is how people are falling for it.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

Yup.even ppl who should know better but after the whole COVID debacle I can’t claim it’s surprising. It’s hard to have any faith that our governance, scientific community (all branches of science) and educational systems are really trying to work for good of the public at large. If any are it isn’t obvious or demonstrated. I am sad that the result of our first Black president was a significant deterioration in race relations. I never thought I’d see the day when Americans would stoop to violence over politics. Not having the “right” opinion can cost you everything.

Not confident this ship can be turned before all out civil war is the only path which would be horrible in every capacity. What’s worse to me is that this is the result of the efforts of my generation coming to fruition. Too many people are coming to this terrible conclusion so I will hope and pray for a peaceful solution.

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Terry Greathead's avatar

To accept the ideology requires quite a leap of faith for anyone with a modicum of intelligence, yet the gender identity ideology has been accepted by corporations, governments and academics alike. I can understand with corporations looking for social trends and how they can capitalize on them but what is in it for the others? How can institutions advocate for child mutilation and sterilization, knowing deep down what they are doing is wrong? How can prominent media personalities and celebrities also push the narrative against what they must know is wrong.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Insane for sure. Throughout history people have believed in equally bizarre things, burning women at the stake, eugenics, lobotomies, etc. My big concern with this movement is how it was seeded which suggests goals. Ultimately I look to the societal consequences to try and understand the motivations of those who originally pushed this. As I said above, I hope we stop it before their goals are achieved.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

Maybe it doesn’t matter if it’s some conspiracy or just the latest pop-culture cluster f**k. I believe it’s a conspiracy but not necessarily of human undertaking. There are truly evil forces in our world that are always looking for ways to inflict misery and ppl unwilling to consider it real helps it get in under the radar.

I don’t think it’s the lefts MAGA movement. The two aren’t in any way relevant or comparable. There is a pattern to leftist ideology that takes an extremely oppositional position to traditional Judeo-Christian teachings. It’s predictable and always detrimental to “family”. This trans movement is psychotic and needs to stop. Rational thought should prevail though those who clearly know better are very out to lunch on this.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

The money behind this ideology is vast.The profit is HUGE! Governments support it! Fighting this is like fighting a giant hydra with multiple tentacles. It has to be done by making people aware of the danger . Politicians who support this have to be voted out , and that means most if not all Democrats.. even a few Republicans.

Withhold all money to charities that cater to trans ideology…particularly Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch , ACLU , Lambda Legal, National Women’s Law Center, IRC, Earthjustice, PFLAG, FosFeminista,The Trevor Project,

There are too many good charities that have jumped on the trans wagon . Just look them up before you give. Check out the name and their stand on trans ideology. Sadly there are Not too many left that don’t subscribe to DEI and trans “ justice”.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Totally agree. Something that is equally disturbing to the money is the incredible coordination it required to roll the Trans campaign out. And how successful it has been especially considering it makes no rational sense whatsoever.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

It’s good advice to check any “charity” or org that claims to work toward anything but red flags are easy to spot. Equality or equity esp. or any subgroup rights are flashing red flags. Even animal protection groups are riddled with leftist social justice ideology. I don’t see how it’s necessary to couple protections for vulnerable populations with child abusing transitioning practitioners or proponents but they do. Teachers unions, county and state governments mostly fully endorse this horse manure even though they don’t stand to gain much from it (legally anyway). Welp, if mankind doesn’t blow the planet up with nukes then someday, hopefully soon, this whole debacle will be looked upon as a time of collective insanity. The trans movement is but one of the crazy goings on in the past decade.

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Gordon Pasha's avatar

One of the real ironies of the WPATH disclosures is that Metzger is the German word for butcher.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

That is bizarre. Thanks for sharing that!

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Lucy's avatar

I think the problem actually goes deeper than gender and the whole horrible objective of the trans industry needs to be exposed. Jennifer Bilek does wonderful work documenting the true objective of the transtrain whose final destination is transhumanism. Infrastructure is already in prepared and in place in insurance companies, medical facilities etc for the commoditization of life itself. When you look at the end goal you understand why the trans industry needs to devalue women. Our children and grandchildren are going to be convinced and coerced into believing that natural birth is dirty/risky/dangerous and ‘bought birth’ i.e. laboratory birth is safer, cleaner and better. Kerrching! 💵 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Yes I have read her work on the transhumanism angle and the massive money that is behind it. Very disturbing on every possible level. For those who have not been exposed to it yet Jennifer has a substack https://jbilek.substack.com

When we look at the coalition pushing the trans agenda on society and how it has been pushed, it is clear there is a goal. The only thing I am 100% certain of is that the goal is on the bad side of evil. Waking people up to the danger is essential to stop this madness.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

It’s horrible ..trans humanism is the wet dream of authoritarians!

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Well put

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Lucy's avatar

Exactly that and a living nightmare for the rest of us 😡

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Terry Greathead's avatar

I will have to look into Jennifer’s work, but this just reinforces my belief that we need to push for the re-emergence of the importance of the family and parental rights over their kids.

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Claire Rae Randall's avatar

Jennifer Bilek is rather hard core. While she is perfectly right to identify that this is being exploited by Big Pharma and political ideologues she accuses all transsexuals of sexual perversion and fails to understand that there was a genuine phenomenon which has long existed but which has been appropriated and weaponised by these institutions and political groupings.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Yes exactly. Take something real to launch something unreal. I have been trying to communicate this message albeit not as successfully as I would like. The same strategy has been used with other subjects as well.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

From what I’ve read, many “trans” minors grow up to become homosexual adults. While I personally do not condemn same sex relations I am not the author of “right” vs “wrong”. It’s not my place to judge others and I’ve known a good many homosexual ppl who are decent ppl in every regard. The problem is that kids are being persuaded to identify as trans with some cheap tricks. Kids who are wrestling with other issues like ADHD, Aspergers, depression etc. are being manipulated to think these problems are rooted in their discomfort with their bodies, and that they can “fix” this by transitioning into a new person. As preposterous as this is, it has captivated broad swaths of the population. I’m sure many people who support this have good intentions having been duped by false statistics and manufactured facts. The MSM has been a dubious partner in soliciting this false narrative but that’s all many ppl ever hear. They need to see the botched surgeries, get real facts and honest stats. Meanwhile arming oneself with that information may help begin to burst this crazy bubble.

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Claire Rae Randall's avatar

This is why treatment should be left aside until later unless there is some other accompanying physical comorbidity.

I would say though that the 'botched surgeries' narrative is somewhat exaggerated. Surgeons who have trained properly rarely botch their job while those that do are likely opportunists who don't really have the proper expertise. Much tighter regulation would prevent such problems, like it does with cosmetic surgeries.

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Michelle Ford's avatar

And the elephant in the room, that really needs to be exposed is the fact that several vaccines are manufactured using eternal cell lines from both male and female aborted fetus organ harvesting. What could possibly go wrong when you inject products with criss-crossed cell mediums? It’s really a sick problem and the victims are the one who “had” to have the injections to; attend school, participate in group sports, be seen by their doctor, be accepted by friends. Oh, and for those of you who had no idea about the cell line fiasco, don’t take it from me, I’m no scientist, but you can hear about it by Marcella Piper-Terry https://www.facebook.com/TrutherTalk/videos/1579430685436913/

And/or by brilliant Attorney, Aaron Siri’s deposition of Stanley Plotkin…which could be found sometime after the 32+ minute mark of Aaron’s testimony in an Arizona Hearing https://static.arkengine.com/video/clsnn880x005mjp01x3nbom3m/file/mp4/EP%20359%20AARON%20SIRI%20TESTIFIES%20PT%202.mp4

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Will have to check that out. Have not heard of this before.

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Michelle Ford's avatar

Thank you for being willing! Sometimes I feel for the victims of gender-dysphoria because from my observations, its as much a side-effect of vaccines, as every other diagnosis in the Physician's Desk Reference Manual caused by vaccines (which is every disease ever known).

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Terry Greathead's avatar

By the way you wrote a great article, summarizing many of salient points of this pervasive ideology

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Thanks Terry!

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Viviane Morrigan's avatar

Yes, to both girls and boys being sacrificed to gender ideology. I and some others in NSW are fighting a losing battle against the Labor government who are well and truly captured. They have just rammed through ‘anti conversion’ legislation and now about to pass their ‘equality’ legislation, which of course is nothing about that but rather the next step in getting gender ID legal at the expense of our young people’s minds and bodily health. And all this while poor Sal Grover has just been fighting a losing court battle here in Sydney over the meaning of ‘woman’ with the ‘help ‘ of our captured national Human Rights Commission. I’m going to include with the CoAL submission to the NSW government a critique of the Dentons document I’ve prepared in a probably vain attempt to open the politicians’ eyes to how easily they are being manipulated. Wish me luck. The deadline for completing the submission I’m writing for CoAL (Coalition of Activist Lesbians) is tomorrow and I only began yesterday! So much to do and so little time (and energy at my ripe old age of 75). Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Grateful to connect with you.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Good luck! It is so good to see people fighting the good fight on this. It is mystifying how so many have been conned into thinking it is OK to drug children and young adults especially since the data shows how harmful it is and it does not work in the long run. But then I remember that most of the world believed in slavery at one point and then eugenics. Look what it took to open people's minds with just those two things. Let me know how it goes.

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Viviane Morrigan's avatar

Thank you, Sue. Yes I’ve researched the history of eugenics and it’s sanitised version of genetic counselling from when I worked in genetics as a scientist and then in human genetics services which prompted me to do my PhD in the ethics of genetic counselling for prenatal diagnosis of Down Syndrome as I saw the eugenic thinking in the state’s rationale for setting up and funding the new state-wide services that I had become instrumental in. A dilemma as a ‘pro choice’ feminist.

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

Yeah, the medical industrial complex bristles at the notion of the frequent long term health care often (but not always) associated with Downs and they do kinda push the notion that early in vitro genetic testing is a way to weed out the costly ones as early as possible. Because of this Down’s syndrome children are becoming ever more rare. Ppl who have them swear they are the sweetest children and with a bit of extra effort can grow to be independent, contributing members of society.

The caveat is that our “testing” isn’t fool proof and some pregnancies are terminated unnecessarily. Then there are some women who refuse to terminate due to genetic indicators of serious defects but then have healthy children. I personally knew of such a case. Like myself, this woman had a late life “menopause” pregnancy in her mid forties. The child in question was a beautiful little boy who was really intelligent, sweet and nice kid. No Downs or spina bifida. I decided against the testing as I had no intention of terminating regardless of the results. That can be especially important if you will be living in a place far from modern neonatal care at the time the baby will be due. I live quite close to some of the best neonatal care on the planet so I decided to go with the overwhelming odds that my daughter would be born woke and healthy. She is on the spectrum and has pretty severe ADHD but that’s not what our current tests reveal anyway.

Someone in the comments above noted that some doctors might just want to be on the cutting edge of new techniques in surgical gender reassignment. I’d considered that too but it’s one thing to pioneer new ways to repair heart defects or some other life/limb saving surgical protocols. Gender reassignment is Frankenstein stuff. I’ve seen photos of grossly disfigured young ppl. It’s a travesty and an abomination that cannot be undone. Hysterectomies and castrations cannot be reversed. Children cannot possibly comprehend the long term consequences of these “therapies”. The callous indifference the medical community has in subjecting kids to this horror show and pressuring parents is nothing but criminal. Shame on them all. There’s at least several dozen good reasons this is a very bad road to take yet the bizarre dissonance that is required to think oneself a physician and still support/participate in propagating this insanity is mind bending.

God. Help. Us. All.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

On the subject of what drives the doctors who butcher kids - Jordan Peterson's conversation with Michael Shellenberger is enlightening. I included a link above in the details section

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Maureen Mehlman's avatar

Oops. Somehow didn’t notice that spell check altered “whole” into “woke”. Meant to say my daughter was born whole and healthy.

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Claire Rae Randall's avatar

Yes, very much on the right track. Some minor terminology points but basically on target.

The main terminological point I'll address is that I believe transsexualism/Gender Dysphoria is a matter of developmental neurology rather than a psychiatric condition which is why it can undergo remission in adolescence The Rapid Onset Pseudotranssexuals who are getting ensnared in the ideology are the ones experiencing psychiatric problems.

But completely agree about the promotion of the ideology which I examine in my book, The War on Gender ~ Postmodernism and Trans Identity.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1914208811/

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Thanks Claire Rea. I am unaware of the link between developmental neurology and transsexualism/gender dysphoria. I am guessing this is detailed in your book?

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Claire Rae Randall's avatar

Hi, Sorry I missed this earlier. Yes I do give references for a representative sample of medical studies. I don't claim it to be exhaustive as my book is a general overview but I believe these studies are indicative of organic influences in the aetiology of transsexualism.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

The HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS behind this is mind boggling! How do you fight that?

I just googled the top 20 or so charities that support the ideology and rounding up those figures alone, came up with$132,000,000!

How do you fight that?

https://lgbtfunders.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2020.04.02_FINAL_2018TrackingReport_08.pdf

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Viviane Morrigan's avatar

I like your attempt at a clearer understanding of the disordered thinking that supports gender identity ideology. But your analysis constructs a gender identity ideology as some kind of free floating thing detached from the power relations of political processes in the sex wars being waged on women, which produce and maintain such splitting off of mind from body, of matter from emotion, of male authority from female subjugation. This could explain ROGD as an acknowledgement of internalised misogyny, and AGP as male eroticisation of objectified fantasies of womanhood, masochism and masculinity.

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Sue Seboda's avatar

Thanks for commenting Viviane. I purposely avoided why this is happening so people would focus on what is happening. The issue has been politicized to such a degree that many believe it is right wing talking point and ignore it. I think ROGD is mainly a result of social contagion caused by the marketing of the ideology which begins at a young age coupled with parents who have become true believers. I agree this movement is an attack on women but it is not just the girls who are targeted, so are boys. So perhaps we can say this is an attack on what it means to be human. No question it is an attack on reality and therefore the mental stability of children and young adults. It is also one more head of the victim/oppressor hydra which not only divides us horribly but delivers power to those who decide who is victim and who is oppressor. And we cannot forget money. The sex change industry has become big $$$ and they are pushing it hard.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

YES! Follow the money! And it’s huge!

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